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This is just going to be a small little rant.
One I've read multiple times from other users concerning the "maturity" filters on this site.

So feel free to skip - as I'm sure you've read it all before.

I briefly thought about putting a maturity filter warning on my last deviation.
After all there *is* nudity. But I dismissed the idea because I thought that was silly.
It was just boobs. With no sexual content. Nothing obscene and nothing unnatural - just a pair of boobs.

But - to my surprise I did get reported and the setting was changed.

And I'm not upset or disappointed about that. I'm on this site and I will willing follow their rules because that's what I agreed to when I made this page.

I guess I'm just saddened by the idea that it's not okay for breasts to be exposed.

I think it takes me back to my breastfeeding in public days.

I was one of those women that was going to breastfeed where ever I was. I was not going to make my child scream and cry and wait until we got home. And I CERTAINLY wasn't going to go to some disgustingly dirty bathroom to feed my child.

The only exceptions I made were for male friends and family.

But if you were a stranger... I didn't care.
At that point breasts were not a sexual thing. They were a functional thing. And I was relatively discrete not that I felt I should have to be.

I fed on planes, restaurants, malls, and parks...

And I actually did run into people that asked me to stop. Or go somewhere else.
Once I was in a mall women's bathroom - they had a nice little sitting area with couches and a table... you know the type? I had a lady who worked there come in and ask me to use a stall.

How horrible is that?

I guess I just don't understand where this fear comes from? If you happen to sit on the opposite side of this view, please... explain this to me. I promise I'm a very open person and I will do my best to understand where you are coming from with nothing but respect for your opinion and views.

So...
Yeah...
Go boobs!

And to make this art related... this is how I feel. And I don't think it needs a maturity warning.   [link]
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~give-me-wings Oct 30, 2009  Professional Photographer
The maturity filter doesn't strike me as a response to being offended by nudity. It's just that you don't know who's coming to the site; some very young kids could be playing around on the computer and come to the site, and it seems to me like DA is just stopping people from stumbling across a page and seeing something they might not want to see. I mean, I love nudity. Love love love. But if you don't have a DA account, you might not know what you're getting into, and the filter just stops you and asks "are you sure you wanna see something with nudity?" and you have every right to go "why yes, I am sure" and then view it.
Personally I kinda like the filter, because it stops people I know personally in real life from seeing my more mature work if they don't have an account; personally I don't really want people looking at my even slightly more mature work unless they're coming from an artistic mindset, so if they don't have an account, there's a good chance they'll just see it and go "omg naked!!!" and stop there, hahaha.
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~WordsAreMyWeakness Nov 1, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
I guess offended is perhaps a strong word. But to be honest I can't really think of what the word is... an aversion to nudity?

I KNOW there are things on DA that I wouldn't want my 2 year old daughter seeing. And I understand the point of the maturity filter, hell, there are things on this site that I'd rather not see. But the naked human body isn't one of those things for me.

Specifically breasts.

And I think that's the point. I don't understand why this "aversion" for lack of a better word exists. The only thing I can think of is just a lack of exposure to the naked body with the exception of sexual situations. (which we've all been taught are bad and a sin and should be kept behind closed doors and DEFINITELY not in public. - and I'm not saying the sex should be a public thing. I just wish the negative stigma it has would go away. I definitely plan on teaching my daughter that sex is in NO WAY bad.)

In this situation I think the maturity filter hinders rather than hurts. I have no problem with my daughter being exposed to the naked human form at the age of two if it's not in a sexual sense. (that will come later I'm sure - hopefully with a question and answer portion. hehe.)

I definitely think the maturity filter helps in a lot of good ways. But I think the censorship we have on things as a society hinders us.

If I can teach my daughter anything - I would like for it to be that she is beautiful just the way she is. I would like for her to feel confident in her own skin. And this is something that is really really hard to teach someone when everyone and everything else is telling her the exact opposite.

With the lack of censorship on the natural nude I feel like it would be a step in the right direction. I step to saying that I am beautiful naked. You know?

I hope I didn't ramble too much and that some of that made sense?
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:iconahrinin:
Breasts exist and their portrayal is included for thousands of years. It seems silly, to me, to balk when the Venus de Milo has not had pasties or a brassiere added (although the adding of fig leaves for statues falls under similar categories, that usually gets applied to male statuary as well). If someone is genuinely offended, they should have a venue to complain but should also respect artistic integrity. Since there are some questionable expressions out there, ie pornographic levels of gore, blatant genitalia shots, etc, I understand the desire for NSFW warning flags but that also makes me wonder about what some folk find titillating while also wanting to never have confirmation.

As to breast feeding, when it has been going on I am usually oblivious and thus cannot say that I have ever really had to "face it." The anecdotal example following may clear up how it sometimes seems as if one almost has to be looking specifically for someone nursing to cry foul on it.

For comparison, several mothers in my parish growing would nurse their children while at services, generally in the rear pews (or when there was one, a detached room for those with small children that had a window to the nave and a PA speaker) and rather discreet. One of them had commented that she never ran into problems with nursing in that setting but occasionally had to snap back at someone in places like parks and malls.

(Tangent: CBS' "Sunday Morning" included a bit on "Rubenesque" women and the portrayal in large parts of Euro-N. Amer. art of female nudes as being anything but rails.)
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~WordsAreMyWeakness Nov 1, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
I completely understand the warnings for things deemed "inappropriate" I just wish that the nude form in general didn't qualify as inappropriate. You know?

Very interesting that you've never come across it. I guess it was pretty rare for me to find it as well. But I always get so proud when I do see it.

Very interesting that it would be more acceptable inside a church. Can't say that I've witnessed anything like that. I always assumed that religion was part of the reason these negative stigmas existed in the first place. Perhaps I'm wrong in that assumption. Hm.

I'll also have to see if I can't find that CBS bit. I'm always so interested in the perception of beauty - what it was and what it is.
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~Ewa5 Oct 22, 2009  Professional Photographer
I believe that woman should not only be aloud to breast feed in public , but they should be able to walk around topless if they choose. Men do it , and they have just as much (sometimes more) nipples than we have! It is a foolish thing to be offended by a part of the human body , breast especially.
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~WordsAreMyWeakness Oct 24, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah... that definitely would be the next step.
But I'm all for baby steps.
It is silly to be offended by a part of the body.
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:icondreamskaype:
*sighs* People.

We have a family friend who was breast feeding once. ...Some 7 year old walked up to her and was like "My mommy doesn't think you should be doing that. -insert child babble- Okay, I gotta go now! I have to go kick the bad guys in the head :D"

Honestly, I'd rather my kid see a lady breast feed than play Mortal Kombat =/
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~WordsAreMyWeakness Oct 21, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
Hehe.

I don't mind either.

But breast feeding is SOOOO good for your child. That if you're able to you should be praised and supported by society not forced to stay at home confined to the walls that you are probably in 24/7.

Maybe with enough people breastfeeding in public - people will get use to the sight and it won't be such a bad thing any more.
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You rant so polietly.

:) I agree with you though.
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~WordsAreMyWeakness Oct 20, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
Hahaha.

It's hard for me to be mean.

Especially when writing - if I'm fired up, it usually dies out before I'm done writing and then I apologize at the end. heh.
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